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		<title>Comment on Let us strengthen our Union &#8211; not see it break up by David Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2012/01/29/let-us-strengthen-our-union-not-see-it-break-up/#comment-2622</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well and good, but what about the growing aspirations of the English.  As per normal, no one mentions us.  

I am persuaded that it would be better, fitter, for the Union to remain, but not at any cost.  It may surprise some that the English people are becoming increasingly frustrated by the political apartheid being practised against them.

So who are the no Irish, non Scottish, non Welsh MP&#039;s sitting in Westminster you may well ask.  My reply is simply that they are British MP&#039;s representing British political parties tied into a British political system.

A Westminster Parliament denuded of non English constituency MP&#039;s is not, by implication, the English Parliament.  

If the Union is to be maintained, the English must have parity with the other home nations and have its own English voice.

When all is revealed and if we can trust the financial models and statistics put forward by the various protagonists, we will understand (hopefully) the mechanisms which will need to be put in place to keep the various parts of the Union afloat.

The problem is (and which scares some British politicians witless) that the revelations will either conclude that England is indeed subsidising the other countries in the Union, whilst suffering an inequality of treatment itself (University fees, prescription charges etc) or that the British politicians have been lying through their teeth and the Scots have been subsidising us, as the SNP insists.

If the former case is proven and the English have their own parliament, you can bet the first thing on the agenda will be to reorder the situation so that the very least, all members of the public receive the same entitlements and treatment.

In any event, the gravy train will come to a halt and cause some pain in other countries and a celebration of justice gained, in England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well and good, but what about the growing aspirations of the English.  As per normal, no one mentions us.  </p>
<p>I am persuaded that it would be better, fitter, for the Union to remain, but not at any cost.  It may surprise some that the English people are becoming increasingly frustrated by the political apartheid being practised against them.</p>
<p>So who are the no Irish, non Scottish, non Welsh MP&#8217;s sitting in Westminster you may well ask.  My reply is simply that they are British MP&#8217;s representing British political parties tied into a British political system.</p>
<p>A Westminster Parliament denuded of non English constituency MP&#8217;s is not, by implication, the English Parliament.  </p>
<p>If the Union is to be maintained, the English must have parity with the other home nations and have its own English voice.</p>
<p>When all is revealed and if we can trust the financial models and statistics put forward by the various protagonists, we will understand (hopefully) the mechanisms which will need to be put in place to keep the various parts of the Union afloat.</p>
<p>The problem is (and which scares some British politicians witless) that the revelations will either conclude that England is indeed subsidising the other countries in the Union, whilst suffering an inequality of treatment itself (University fees, prescription charges etc) or that the British politicians have been lying through their teeth and the Scots have been subsidising us, as the SNP insists.</p>
<p>If the former case is proven and the English have their own parliament, you can bet the first thing on the agenda will be to reorder the situation so that the very least, all members of the public receive the same entitlements and treatment.</p>
<p>In any event, the gravy train will come to a halt and cause some pain in other countries and a celebration of justice gained, in England.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let us strengthen our Union &#8211; not see it break up by Pearl of Tyburn</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2012/01/29/let-us-strengthen-our-union-not-see-it-break-up/#comment-2616</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearl of Tyburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I can&#039;t believe that the Scottish Nationalists have gotten so far so fast and are so willing to throw out a unified Britain as if it were an old and very ugly sweater! Indeed, I believe much of their campaign is based on brain-washing the Scots out of part of their identity. I love the UK dearly and would heart-broken to see it be destroyed by the 2014 vote. Many of the actions of the Westiminster government I disagree with, but I believe strongly in the British people and the bond that has been developed among them for hundreds of years. 

I agree with what you say in this article; charity and hard work (and a lot of prayer, in my opinon!) are going to be the UK&#039;s only chance of preservation. And even if the worst case political scenario occurs, at least civil war won&#039;t break out if everyone keeps their heads. 

I&#039;ll try to do what I can where I can to help out the cause. If you&#039;d like to read some of the articles I posted on the subject, you can locate them at the above written website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I can&#8217;t believe that the Scottish Nationalists have gotten so far so fast and are so willing to throw out a unified Britain as if it were an old and very ugly sweater! Indeed, I believe much of their campaign is based on brain-washing the Scots out of part of their identity. I love the UK dearly and would heart-broken to see it be destroyed by the 2014 vote. Many of the actions of the Westiminster government I disagree with, but I believe strongly in the British people and the bond that has been developed among them for hundreds of years. </p>
<p>I agree with what you say in this article; charity and hard work (and a lot of prayer, in my opinon!) are going to be the UK&#8217;s only chance of preservation. And even if the worst case political scenario occurs, at least civil war won&#8217;t break out if everyone keeps their heads. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to do what I can where I can to help out the cause. If you&#8217;d like to read some of the articles I posted on the subject, you can locate them at the above written website.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let us strengthen our Union &#8211; not see it break up by Munster</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2012/01/29/let-us-strengthen-our-union-not-see-it-break-up/#comment-2607</link>
		<dc:creator>Munster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that when the Scots iraigmmted in large numbers to America that it raised the average intelligence of both populations.  I have no way of knowing if this was true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that when the Scots iraigmmted in large numbers to America that it raised the average intelligence of both populations.  I have no way of knowing if this was true.</p>
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		<title>Comment on You heard it here first&#8230; sadly by Aik</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2010/10/19/you-heard-it-here-first-sadly/#comment-2606</link>
		<dc:creator>Aik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sodnus a bit like the whole industrial policy debate. It works when you have good leaders but not when you have bad ones. As ever, I&#8217;d like to see some data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sodnus a bit like the whole industrial policy debate. It works when you have good leaders but not when you have bad ones. As ever, I&#8217;d like to see some data.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some thoughts on &#8216;Creating the Good Economy&#8217; by Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2011/11/10/some-thoughts-on-creating-the-good-economy/#comment-2605</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,There&#8217;s adalrey nothing to stop people volunteering to work for free.Funny how few people are actually doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,There&#8217;s adalrey nothing to stop people volunteering to work for free.Funny how few people are actually doing it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For The Union, It&#8217;s Federate or Separate by Basant</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2011/09/26/for-the-union-its-federate-or-separate/#comment-2604</link>
		<dc:creator>Basant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#8217;t! Not that my ooiinpn counts for much of anything, but I find aussie-ness much more attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t! Not that my ooiinpn counts for much of anything, but I find aussie-ness much more attractive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fantasy politics?  An Assembly based on voluntary coalition and a shared future agenda. by Thato</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2009/09/14/fantasy-politics-an-assembly-based-on-voluntary-coalition-and-a-shared-future-agenda/#comment-2600</link>
		<dc:creator>Thato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jayne Dunlop didn&#8217;t magane to get elected in the end. I never thought a Sinn Feiner would be elected on the first round in Antrim North of all places. And Jim Allister of TUV was one of the new MLAs for that seat.From the results it looks like APNI will be entitled to one ministerial post (I make it DUP- First Minister plus 4 ministers, SF- Deputy First Minister plus 3 ministers, UUP- 2 ministers, SDLP- 1 minister, which matches the current position).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayne Dunlop didn&#8217;t magane to get elected in the end. I never thought a Sinn Feiner would be elected on the first round in Antrim North of all places. And Jim Allister of TUV was one of the new MLAs for that seat.From the results it looks like APNI will be entitled to one ministerial post (I make it DUP- First Minister plus 4 ministers, SF- Deputy First Minister plus 3 ministers, UUP- 2 ministers, SDLP- 1 minister, which matches the current position).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let us strengthen our Union &#8211; not see it break up by Kai</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2012/01/29/let-us-strengthen-our-union-not-see-it-break-up/#comment-2596</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YiKeS!  I can&#039;t touch this one w/ a 10 foot pole... good luck &amp; the very best of whesis!!! =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YiKeS!  I can&#039;t touch this one w/ a 10 foot pole&#8230; good luck &amp; the very best of whesis!!! =)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would Alex Salmond make a colony of Scotland? by Dave McEwan Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2012/02/07/would-alex-salmond-make-a-colony-of-scotland/#comment-2595</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave McEwan Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author of this piece proceeds ona number of very careless assumptions none of which are supported by any facts or law.
The fact is that Scotland owns around 9% of UK assets, much of which will be in contnuous use on independence.
Scotland for instance owns around 9% of the bank of England (which despite its name is not an English bank but a clearing bank for an internationally traded currency called sterling), 9% of its gold and foreign currency reserves and so on.

The remaining UK will be falling over itself to encourage an independent Scotland to continue using sterling as revenue from oil and gas at the moment is what is providing the collateral for UK&#039;s debts and without Scotland&#039;s resources backing it sterling will be in deep trouble.
Don&#039;t let the facts get in the road of a good story.

The people of Northern Ireland are very soon going to have to decided who they are going with when Scotland becomes independent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of this piece proceeds ona number of very careless assumptions none of which are supported by any facts or law.<br />
The fact is that Scotland owns around 9% of UK assets, much of which will be in contnuous use on independence.<br />
Scotland for instance owns around 9% of the bank of England (which despite its name is not an English bank but a clearing bank for an internationally traded currency called sterling), 9% of its gold and foreign currency reserves and so on.</p>
<p>The remaining UK will be falling over itself to encourage an independent Scotland to continue using sterling as revenue from oil and gas at the moment is what is providing the collateral for UK&#8217;s debts and without Scotland&#8217;s resources backing it sterling will be in deep trouble.<br />
Don&#8217;t let the facts get in the road of a good story.</p>
<p>The people of Northern Ireland are very soon going to have to decided who they are going with when Scotland becomes independent</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let us strengthen our Union &#8211; not see it break up by Conal O'Hare</title>
		<link>http://www.openunionism.com/2012/01/29/let-us-strengthen-our-union-not-see-it-break-up/#comment-2594</link>
		<dc:creator>Conal O'Hare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peninsula -On reflection, I concede that this could be construed as a somewhat hyperbolic exaggeration of the way the SNP places Scottish identity, and symbols of it, at the heart of what they do - but, in my defence, they do use Scottish-inspired music in their PPB&#039;s &amp; at their conference, I&#039;ve lost count of the number of times Alex Salmond has quoted Burns in his speeches and check out the SNP Website/Conference etc- it&#039;s Saltire Central. With respect, I was merely trying to highlight that it should be a campaign run from Scotland with a Scottish identity- because I&#039;m assuming a Yes Campaign fronted by the SNP will place symbols of Scottish identity front and centre. If I appeared flippant in my analysis - I do apologise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peninsula -On reflection, I concede that this could be construed as a somewhat hyperbolic exaggeration of the way the SNP places Scottish identity, and symbols of it, at the heart of what they do &#8211; but, in my defence, they do use Scottish-inspired music in their PPB&#8217;s &amp; at their conference, I&#8217;ve lost count of the number of times Alex Salmond has quoted Burns in his speeches and check out the SNP Website/Conference etc- it&#8217;s Saltire Central. With respect, I was merely trying to highlight that it should be a campaign run from Scotland with a Scottish identity- because I&#8217;m assuming a Yes Campaign fronted by the SNP will place symbols of Scottish identity front and centre. If I appeared flippant in my analysis &#8211; I do apologise.</p>
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